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依照美国经验式计算的中口径舰炮穿深表

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依照美国经验式计算的中口径舰炮穿深表

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本文的参考资料:

"Naval Weapons of World War Two" by John Campbell

"Ordnance Pamphlet No. 1188 Abridged Range Tables 1944"

经过论坛管理组的努力,美国经验式的计算公式已经得到还原。鉴于除美国以外的各国火炮均没有完整的经验式穿深数值,且部分火炮还存在数据错误的情况,因此我依照目前已知的弹道数据对各国火炮的经验式穿深数据进行了推算。

本贴主要讨论各国中口径舰炮的穿深表现,关于大口径舰炮的穿深表现,请移步此帖:依照美国经验式计算的大口径舰炮穿深表

关于美国经验式这个计算公式,详情可参考以下几个帖子:

美国海军的穿甲计算公式

用美国海军经验式计算穿甲能力

美国装甲测试得分的意义



美国火炮

8英寸/55倍经Mark 12,Mark 15,RF Mark 16型火炮,弹重335磅(152千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)16.25" (413mm)---2,500fps (762mps)0
2,000yd (1,829m)14.99" (381mm)0.08" (2mm)2,325fps (709mps)0.98
4,000yd (3,658m)13.75" (349mm)0.25" (6mm)2,156fps (657mps)2.15
6,000yd (5,486m)12.53" (318mm)0.45" (11mm)1,995fps (608mps)3.58
8,000yd (7,315m)11.35" (288mm)0.68" (17mm)1,843fps (562mps)5.35
10,000yd (9,144m)10.22" (260mm)0.91" (23mm)1,702fps (519mps)7.52
12,000yd (10,973m)9.14" (232mm)1.14" (29mm)1,574fps (480mps)10.1
14,000yd (12,802m)8.16" (207mm)1.39" (35mm)1,463fps (446mps)13.2
16,000yd (14,630m)7.27" (185mm)1.66" (42mm)1,371fps (418mps)16.85
18,000yd (16,459m)6.48" (165mm)1.96" (50mm)1,298fps (396mps)21.05
20,000yd (18,288m)5.80" (147mm)2.30" (58mm)1,248fps (380mps)25.73
22,000yd (20,117m)5.23" (133mm)2.69" (68mm)1,221fps (372mps)30.78
24,000yd (21,946m)4.73" (120mm)3.14" (80mm)1,211fps (369mps)36.1
26,000yd (23,774m)4.28" (109mm)3.66" (93mm)1,219fps (372mps)41.58
28,000yd (25,603m)3.86" (98mm)4.30" (109mm)1,244fps (379mps)47.37
30,000yd (27,432m)3.35" (85mm)5.20" (132mm)1,294fps (394mps)54.45

8英寸/55倍经Mark 9,Mark 10,Mark 11,Mark 12,Mark 13,Mark 14,Mark 15型火炮,弹重260磅(118千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)16.02" (407mm)---2,800fps (853mps)0
2,000yd (1,829m)14.62" (371mm)0.05" (1mm)2,580fps (786mps)0.8
4,000yd (3,658m)13.24" (336mm)0.17" (4mm)2,367fps (721mps)1.78
6,000yd (5,486m)11.91" (302mm)0.33" (8mm)2,166fps (660mps)2.98
8,000yd (7,315m)10.63" (302mm)0.50" (8mm)1,977fps (603mps)4.5
10,000yd (9,144m)9.40" (239mm)0.69" (17mm)1,800fps (549mps)6.42
12,000yd (10,973m)8.25" (210mm)0.88" (22mm)1,639fps (500mps)8.85
14,000yd (12,802m)7.20" (183mm)1.08" (28mm)1,498fps (457mps)11.82
16,000yd (14,630m)6.28" (160mm)1.30" (33mm)1,381fps (421mps)15.42
18,000yd (16,459m)5.50" (140mm)1.54" (39mm)1,290fps (393mps)19.62
20,000yd (18,288m)4.86" (124mm)1.81" (46mm)1,227fps (374mps)24.38
22,000yd (20,117m)4.35" (110mm)2.13" (54mm)1,191fps (363mps)29.6
24,000yd (21,946m)3.92" (100mm)2.49" (63mm)1,176fps (358mps)34.98
26,000yd (23,774m)3.55" (90mm)2.89" (73mm)1,177fps (359mps)40.4
28,000yd (25,603m)3.22" (82mm)3.34" (85mm)1,193fps (364mps)45.87
30,000yd (27,432m)2.91" (74mm)3.88" (99mm)1,226fps (374mps)51.37
32,000yd (29,261m)2.55" (65mm)4.63" (118mm)1,283fps (391mps)57.95

6英寸/47倍经Mark 16,DP Mark 16型火炮,弹重130磅(59千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)11.64" (296mm)---2,500fps (762mps)0
2,000yd (1,829m)10.35" (263mm)0.05" (1mm)2,252fps (686mps)1.03
4,000yd (3,658m)9.10" (231mm)0.18" (5mm)2,019fps (615mps)2.35
6,000yd (5,486m)7.89" (200mm)0.33" (8mm)1,799fps (548mps)4.15
8,000yd (7,315m)6.76" (172mm)0.50" (13mm)1,600fps (488mps)6.5
10,000yd (9,144m)5.75" (146mm)0.68" (17mm)1,428fps (435mps)9.67
12,000yd (10,973m)4.88" (124mm)0.88" (22mm)1,289fps (393mps)13.7
14,000yd (12,802m)4.19" (106mm)1.10" (28mm)1,189fps (362mps)18.63
16,000yd (14,630m)3.66" (93mm)1.36" (34mm)1,129fps (344mps)24.3
18,000yd (16,459m)3.25" (83mm)1.66" (42mm)1,102fps (336mps)30.43
20,000yd (18,288m)2.93" (75mm)2.01" (51mm)1,102fps (336mps)36.63
22,000yd (20,117m)2.65" (67mm)2.40" (61mm)1,119fps (341mps)42.82
24,000yd (21,946m)2.37" (60mm)2.87" (73mm)1,149fps (350mps)49.25
26,000yd (23,774m)1.96" (50mm)3.60" (92mm)1,209fps (369mps)58.12

日本火炮

20厘米/50倍经3年式2号火炮,弹重277.45磅(125.85千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)16.20" (412mm)---2,740fps (835mps)0
5,470yd (5,000m)12.16" (309mm)0.34" (9mm)2,133fps (650mps)3
10,936yd (10,000m)8.63" (219mm)0.76" (19mm)1,634fps (498mps)7.5
16,404yd (15,000m)6.02" (153mm)1.29" (33mm)1,299fps (396mps)15.8
21,872yd (20,000m)4.60" (117mm)2.18" (55mm)1,194fps (364mps)29
27,340yd (25,000m)3.46" (88mm)3.79" (96mm)1,247fps (380mps)47

20厘米/50倍经3年式1号火炮,弹重242.5磅(110千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)15.91" (404mm)---2,854fps (870mps)0

15.5厘米/60倍经3年式火炮,弹重123.2磅(55.87千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)13.73" (349mm)---3,018fps (920mps)0
5,470yd (5,000m)9.49" (241mm)0.27" (7mm)2,175fps (663mps)3
10,936yd (10,000m)6.01" (153mm)0.52" (14mm)1,526fps (465mps)7.7
16,404yd (15,000m)3.69" (94mm)0.84" (21mm)1,115fps (340mps)16.5
21,872yd (20,000m)2.76" (70mm)1.61" (41mm)1,050fps (320mps)33
27,340yd (25,000m)1.87" (47mm)3.08" (78mm)1,148fps (350mps)56

请注意:日本20厘米/50倍经3年式2号火炮的实际口径为20.32厘米。

英国火炮

8英寸/50倍经Mark IX,Mark XI型火炮,弹重290磅(131.54千克)

新炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)16.14" (410mm)---2,670fps (814mps)0

旧炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)15.68" (398mm)---2,600fps (792.5mps)0
5,000yd (4,572m)N/AN/AN/AN/A
10,000yd (9,144m)9.46" (240mm)0.77" (19mm)1,716fps (523mps)6.98
15,000yd (13,716m)6.89" (175mm)1.37" (35mm)1,396fps (425.5mps)14.95
20,000yd (18,288m)5.09" (129mm)2.09" (53mm)1,223fps (373mps)26.25
25,000yd (22,860m)3.94" (100mm)3.14" (80mm)1,198fps (365mps)39.98
30,000yd (27,432m)2.82" (72mm)4.95" (126mm)1,291fps (393.5mps)57.15

8英寸/50倍经Mark VII型火炮,弹重256磅(116.1千克)

新炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)15.91" (404mm)---2,805fps (855mps)0

旧炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)15.41" (391mm)---2,725fps (830.5mps)0
5,000yd (4,572m)11.73" (298mm)0.25" (6mm)2,154fps (657mps)2.52
10,000yd (9,144m)8.52" (216mm)0.72" (18mm)1,683fps (513mps)7.25
15,000yd (13,716m)5.84" (148mm)1.25" (32mm)1,322fps (403mps)15.82
20,000yd (18,288m)4.26" (108mm)1.98" (50mm)1,169fps (356mps)28.52
25,000yd (22,860m)3.27" (83mm)3.01" (76mm)1,164fps (355mps)43.12

7.5英寸/45倍经Mark VI型火炮,弹重200磅(90.7千克)

新炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)14.28" (363mm)---2,770fps (844mps)0

旧炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)13.88" (353mm)---2,700fps (823mps)0
5,000yd (4,572m)8.51" (216mm)0.25" (6mm)1,799fps (548mps)3.32
10,000yd (9,144m)4.81" (122mm)0.78" (20mm)1,218fps (371mps)12.53
15,000yd (13,716m)3.29" (83mm)1.47" (37mm)1,038fps (316mps)27.55
20,000yd (18,288m)2.56" (65mm)2.51" (64mm)1,071fps (326mps)44.58

6英寸/50倍经BL Mark XXIII型火炮,弹重112磅(50.8千克)

新炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)11.95" (304mm)---2,758fps (841mps)0

旧炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)11.67" (297mm)---2,700fps (823mps)0
5,000yd (4,572m)7.91" (201mm)0.21" (5mm)1,939fps (591mps)3
10,000yd (9,144m)4.92" (125mm)0.60" (15mm)1,371fps (418mps)9.95
15,000yd (13,716m)3.20" (81mm)1.15" (29mm)1,098fps (335mps)23.63
20,000yd (18,288m)2.45" (62mm)1.95" (50mm)1,087fps (331mps)39.87

6英寸/50倍经BL Mark XXII型火炮,弹重100磅(45.36千克)

新炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)12.14" (308mm)---2,960fps (902mps)0

旧炮状态

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)11.87" (301mm)---2,900fps (884mps)0
5,000yd (4,572m)7.81" (198mm)0.19" (5mm)2,029fps (618mps)2.8
10,000yd (9,144m)4.65" (118mm)0.52" (13mm)1,390fps (424mps)9.22
15,000yd (13,716m)2.95" (75mm)1.03" (26mm)1,094fps (333mps)23.03
20,000yd (18,288m)2.18" (55mm)1.73" (44mm)1,056fps (322mps)39.77
25,000yd (22,860m)1.50" (38mm)2.85" (72mm)1,148fps (350mps)59

请注意:上述5种英国火炮并未配备穿甲弹;其中8英寸与7.5英寸火炮配备的是半穿甲弹(有被帽),而6英寸火炮配备的是风帽尖头通常弹(无被帽)。

德国火炮

20.3厘米/60倍经SK C/34型火炮,弹重269磅(122千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)17.81" (452mm)---3,035fps (925mps)0
5,470yd (5,000m)13.99" (355mm)0.24" (6mm)2,441fps (744mps)2.1
10,936yd (10,000m)10.46" (266mm)0.73" (18mm)1,926fps (587mps)6.1
16,404yd (15,000m)7.46" (189mm)1.23" (31mm)1,519fps (463mps)12.8
21,872yd (20,000m)5.18" (132mm)1.84" (47mm)1,253fps (382mps)23.6
27,340yd (25,000m)3.81" (97mm)2.63" (67mm)1,158fps (353mps)36.8
32,808yd (30,000m)3.06" (78mm)3.63" (92mm)1,191fps (363mps)48.8

15厘米/55倍经SK C/28型火炮,弹重99.87磅(45.3千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)11.89" (302mm)---2,871fps (875mps)0

15厘米/60倍经SK C/25型火炮,弹重100.3磅(45.5千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)13.18" (335mm)---3,150fps (960mps)0
5,470yd (5,000m)8.83" (224mm)0.15" (4mm)2,208fps (673mps)2.2
10,936yd (10,000m)5.12" (130mm)0.54" (14mm)1,460fps (445mps)8.8
16,404yd (15,000m)2.81" (72mm)1.01" (26mm)1,043fps (318mps)23.5
21,872yd (20,000m)2.07" (52mm)1.81" (46mm)1,030fps (314mps)42
27,340yd (25,000m)1.41" (36mm)2.73" (69mm)1,089fps (332mps)59.5

请注意:德国两款15厘米火炮的实际口径为14.91厘米。

法国火炮

203毫米/50倍经M1924型火炮,弹重295.4磅(134千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)16.45" (418mm)---2,690fps (820mps)0

155毫米/50倍经M1920型火炮,弹重124.6磅(56.5千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)12.69" (322mm)---2,789fps (850mps)0

152毫米/55倍经M1930型火炮,弹重119.4磅(54.17千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)12.85" (326mm)---2,854fps (870mps)0

意大利火炮

203毫米/53倍经M1927,M1929型火炮,弹重276.2磅(125.3千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)17.54" (445mm)---2,953fps (900mps)0

203毫米/50倍经M1924型火炮,弹重260.2磅(118千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)15.74" (400mm)---2,756fps (840mps)0

152毫米/55倍经M1934,M1936型火炮,弹重110.2磅(50千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)12.92" (328mm)---2,986fps (910mps)0

152毫米/53倍经M1926,M1929型火炮,弹重104.7磅(47.5千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)11.65" (296mm)---2,789fps (850mps)0

苏联火炮

180毫米/57倍经B-1-P型火炮,弹重215磅(97.5千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)16.88" (429mm)---3,018fps (920mps)0

152毫米/57倍经B-38型火炮,弹重121.3磅(55千克)

射程垂直穿深水平穿深着速落角
0yd (0m)14.22" (361mm)---3,117fps (950mps)0

请注意:鉴于二战时期的苏联坦克炮弹欠佳的穿甲表现,有理由怀疑苏联战舰炮弹的穿甲表现同样欠佳,其实际穿深很可能达不到经验式穿深的水平。或许只有在对上同样性能欠佳的苏联装甲时,才能取得近似于经验式穿深的数据。
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二战苏联的穿甲弹头最高硬度在洛氏C级50左右,也就是布氏硬度475左右。而毛子自己的IS-2和T-34主装甲最高硬度甚至高达布氏硬度477,软一点的也基本在4百2、3十上下。装甲基本和弹头同一个硬度。弹头当然穿透起来就比较困难。因此,用毛子的穿甲弹测试毛子的装甲,那是相当于2400k的。再说英美德的穿甲弹。德国二战的所有穿甲弹都是有甲帽的。也就是说德国的穿甲弹不是APC就是APCBC。而德国的穿甲弹甲帽的硬度都在布氏硬度600+以上,毛子装甲400+的硬度,碰上德国甲帽600+的硬度,也就没神马花样了,所以直接打回原型,跟普通硬度300上下的装甲没神马区别。而二战的英美穿甲弹,甲帽的硬度跟德国甲帽不相上下,都是600+以上。所以实战效果一样。而英美的无帽普通AP,硬度也都相当高,所以打起毛子的装甲也无压力。但是英美的普通AP因为弹体硬度太高,硬到发脆,所以经常弹体碎裂。比如英国的6pdr,美帝的M3打老虎。测试和实战都多次提到弹体碎裂。大多数人由于思维惯性,认为鸡蛋碰石头,石头硬鸡蛋碎,因此以为虎式采用了表面硬化装甲。但实际是,钻石砸钢板,也是钻石碎。英美普通AP经常碎就是后面这种情况。所以后来英美也升级到了APCBC,只要甲帽碎就好了,弹体可以软一些,就不会碎了。而战争中毛子也发现了这一点,所以战后果断放弃高硬度装甲,跟西方一样使用布氏300上下硬度的装甲,用硬度换韧性。自己原先那400多的硬度,对付自己的弹药是不错,碰上西方的高硬度弹药,毛用都没有。
结论:毛子的2400K装甲只是对毛子自己的弹药而言,对西方的弹药跟2020K的一样,没啥区别。
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一年服役纪念章

发表于 2015-7-3 20:02:18 | 显示全部楼层
楼主,有没有法国1931年型 20.3cm炮的穿深数据
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